Thread: Triumph is broken, and I'm relieved?

Yep, he's broken.

There's been a weird surging thing that I've been fighting with for quite a while now with my Sprint.
I've been trying to fix all the little things that I could. Changed my chain and sprockets....thought that maybe chain was stretched and sprockets were out of round, or warbly, or whatever. Nope.

New tires! You know, they sit for a bit and get squared off....so got new rubber. Nope.

Pestered Terry about my suspension. That actually did wonders for the bike. For the first time in a long time, I felt suspended. I even adjusted the front just a bit because I noticed that the front seemed to be a bit out as well. But still a weird feeling with the motor. Suspension adjustments actually helped me to feel more of the motor and to eliminate other possiblities. Still very grateful to Terry for the help!

New seat! That Corbin had become a beautiful rock. The Sargent is much more comfortable, but now all of my windshield ergonomics are all screwy. Not too sure if I'm tickled pink with the seat.........but still giving it a try.

So with all of these things that I could do on my own.....bike still just isn't running nicely. You can almost feel all 3 cylinders, and it was just telling me that "I need help Mamma!"

Took the bike into SRBMW and Triumph. Got the phone call, and yep, it's broken! For the first time in a long time, I was so very relieved! Yeah!!! I'm not just being a girl and complaining about whatever!!!!! I knew something was wrong!!!

Apparently, there's setting for the air/fuel mixture that can range from 1 to 30. Saint was set at 22. Dennis called Triumph to see about the settings and find out more about the parameters that he (my bike , Saint) should be set for. Dialed Saint back to number 10 on that setting and the bike was running something awful. So, it's needing a lot of air, and the fuel mixture was adjusted to compensate for that. But now, it's just running too darn rich.

So, they will be tearing into the bike to see what's up. Very excited to have my bike at the Doctor, and I'm looking foreward to hearing what they find. It's been a great learning experience. I've been so afraid to do anything with this bike. It's my beauty Queen and I don't want it broken. I hate to admit that, but he really is. lol......So, I've been encouraged to learn , get my hands dirty, read my books and give things a go. Thanks to all that have helped along the way. Can't wait to have good news to report about him!!!!!

Took my repair manual to bed last night to read...........oh so exciting..................and found out that I have air injectors and reed valves...................sounds more like bag pipe parts than motorcycle parts!

Originally Posted by Inky

found out that I have air injectors and reed valves..........

Sounds like you have a 2 stroke diesel

Originally Posted by kevindepot

Sounds like you have a 2 stroke diesel

Or a freaking clarinet.....lol...

Hmmm another 4 stroke with reed valves. The 1st time I ever heard of such a thing on a 4 stroke was back in 81/82 on the Honda XR500R. So if your Rumppet has reeds and if they go bad yes you can have an overly RICH fuel mixture. Your intake charge can be picking up fuel twice, once on it's 1st pass through the intake tract and a 2nd time when it does it's reversion because the reeds aren't stopping the 1st charge from backing up. The rich condition will show up manly at idle or very low rpm's, not so much in the mid to high rpm's.

Honda gave up on the reeds after only 2 years.

Awesome!

That's been the best thing about this.....been learning tons about machinery!

Still waiting to hear back from them......

Well, I can't seem to find any reeds on your Sprints intake system so me thinks the reeds your reading about are for the evaporative system (smog crap). Those are way different than the intake ones found on the old Honda.

Well..............throttle butterflies needed to be re-set. The insides were all gunked up with sludgey gas. Gas smelled bad enough that Noel said.....ewwww!

And he was re-set to not run as rich. Still not sure why he was set to run so rich, but that will be a moto-mystery to be left to your imagination.

New throttle cable was installed. I had a new one,and just put it on. Old one was fine, but was 11 years old. (Peace of mind change for me more than anything!)

Fresh oil!!!!

So, Saint is going to be turned into sport mode and flogged. Noel said to run a full tank of gas thru him with the cleaners and then do it again. We bought a case of injector cleaner and I think I'll put that into all of my vehicles.

I'm thinking that I just got one of those Triumph's that just surges. They are out there, and they did change the way the injectors worked after a few years of being on the bikes. I have the old style. So.......I'll keep on plugging away at him..

That's the latest up date! So the red beastie is back and will be getting more miles on him!!! whoo hoo!!!

Originally Posted by Inky

Well..............throttle butterflies needed to be re-set. The insides were all gunked up with sludgey gas. Gas smelled bad enough that Noel said.....ewwww!

And he was re-set to not run as rich. Still not sure why he was set to run so rich, but that will be a moto-mystery to be left to your imagination.

New throttle cable was installed. I had a new one,and just put it on. Old one was fine, but was 11 years old. (Peace of mind change for me more than anything!)

Fresh oil!!!!

So, Saint is going to be turned into sport mode and flogged. Noel said to run a full tank of gas thru him with the cleaners and then do it again. We bought a case of injector cleaner and I think I'll put that into all of my vehicles.

I'm thinking that I just got one of those Triumph's that just surges. They are out there, and they did change the way the injectors worked after a few years of being on the bikes. I have the old style. So.......I'll keep on plugging away at him..

That's the latest up date! So the red beastie is back and will be getting more miles on him!!! whoo hoo!!!

Flog that "bad boy"!